Wednesday, 23 March 2011

"Close To The Edit" Part 2: John Wagner & Nick Dyer's "...Regrets" & Al Ewing & Simon Fraser's "Mutopia" in "Judge Dredd: Tour Of Duty: The Backlash"

In which the blogger concludes his digression from his "How To 2000 ad" bluffer's guide into the matter of edits made to material collected in several Judge Dredd trade paperbacks.


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By disguising the points in these collected stories at which each individual chapter gives way to the next, the editorial staff at 2000 ad have consistently created awkward and often quite dead moments on the pages concerned. This must surely be judged a serious problem if the editor's intention was indeed to create the impression of a less-compartmentalised reading experience through the excising of the evidence of the original structure of these stories. And yet, where the unknowing reader of the edited product might well expect each story to progress in a fashion which both serves the plot and the meaning of the piece, as the audience for any fiction would surely hope for, the dislocations which still mark the transitions from what was once one distinct chapter to another often result in;
  • the effectiveness and attractiveness of artwork being diminished
  • the content of dialogue and captions becoming marred in redundancies
  • the pacing of the story being disrupted as chapters designed to work both independently of and in sequence with each other are suddenly run together without respect for their original form

Sometimes even the most slight of changes can create a dysfunctional effect. If you were to compare the original final page of the first chapter of "Mutopia", as shown above, with that from the collected version, presented below, all that's different is the removal of the "coming next" line which had originally been placed at the bottom right-hand corner of the side. Yet even the removal of that changes how we perceive the cliffhanger of the piece. With the "next prog" tag removed, our eye is drawn to the middle of the panel and the threateningly toothy scowl on Clavier's face and it's held there too; indeed, there's no obvious direction to exit that panel from unless the text at the bottom of the page remains. With that closing line intact, our gaze is pulled down from the Professor's face and then carried along to the far right of the panel, which creates a far more intense sense of a cliffhanger looming over us. Pushed to the exit point at the edge of the page, we can't dwell for too long on the scene of Clavier without wondering what's coming next, meaning that the enigma of  "what's coming?" hits with far greater force than otherwise. The presence of that text tells us that there's no solution to the problem to be found in that panel, and it  shoves us off the page with the sense that we need to make sure we find out what happens next in the coming chapter. (Without the "next prog" line, I assume the Professor's face would have needed to have been placed far closer to the extreme right of that final frame, allowing our gaze to exit the panel there rather than linger on Clavier's facial tentacles.)


But remove the closing line of text and it's actually astonishing how much more passive and less engaging that last panel is. Yet, having created a less compulsive page-turner from Mr Fraser's work through their removal of that tag, the editors then do the same, and to a far greater and less helpful degree, to the first panel of the following page too, the original of which you can see below. As you'll note, in its weekly context, the intital frame serves as both establishing shot and recap panel;

    
Yet a version of "Mutopia" which is pretending that the story was never published in two separate parts, or indeed created specifically to be so, has no need for any such any panel. What's there to establish and what's there to recap if the story has never paused between one chapter and the next in the first place? And as a result of this, the panel stands in "Tour Of Duty: The Backlash" with its text removed and its reason to be quite absent too;


Instead of leaving the material as it was, or of asking the creators to help make the panel fit more comfortably into the context of its new purpose, nothing has done at all to it to compensate for the removal of its original text. As a result of that negligence, the initial panel on what's now page 7 of one apparently continuous 12 page story becomes not only unhelpfully purposeless and silent, but awkwardly composed too, since removing the captions exposes a previously productive composition now standing somewhat empty and unbalanced in their absence. And as a consequence of those edits, the frame now just kills the progression of the tale stone dead, whereas in its original form it served the purpose of a two-chapter "Mutopia" very well indeed, containing as it did the caption which helped to immediately create rather than diffuse tension with the chilling declaration that; "In less than thirty minutes the next hostage will die...".         

The enigma inspired by the revelation concerning Clavier on the preceding page, therefore, is now followed in "Tour Of Duty: The Backlash" with an establishing shot with no reason to be and a frame designed to accommodate expositionary text that's been excised from it. It's as if the point at which at a roller coaster pauses before starting its sheer drop towards the ground has been blocked by a blank brick wall, with all that expectation and gathering momentum crashing into one great solid disappointment.
               
          
I'd confidently invest a substantial amount in a bet based on the premise that Mr Ewing and Mr Fraser would never have produced such a dramatically unhelpful and story-slowing panel as that which now opens page 7 of the edited "Mutopia", although this trade paperback makes it appear as if that was their very intention.

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You'll also note, of course, the same problems caused to the structure and effect of the above page following the removal of the titles and credits panel as those we discussed in part one of "Close To The Edit", where we considered the similar fate that had befallen the story's opening side. And so, for the second time in 12 pages, the reader of the collected version of "Mutopia" is faced with a page which is of quite different dimensions to those around it, and once again there's no explanation for that being so. What sense this makes to the reader unfamiliar with the story, and/or unaware of the editor's designs, escapes me, although at best I'd suggest that the effect of the changes is to compound one storytelling problem with another, leaving a sense of dissatisfaction and confusion to be generated as a result.

             
If you or I were to buy the DVD of a contemporary TV show which had been edited so counter-productively, we'd be both annoyed and mystified, and that would be especially true if there'd been no warning that the changes had been made to the product on the packaging at the point of purchase. I suspect we'd also be concerned  about the degree of respect that the producers were showing to the original product, to its creators and to the audience too. And I very much doubt that we'd want to keep our misguided purchase either once we grasped the difference between what we'd expected and what we'd been sold.

Perhaps worse yet for Rebellion Publishing and 2000 ad, any newcomers to the edited product may well be inspired to wonder what all the fuss is about where this much lauded "Tour Of Duty" cycle of stories is concerned. The very idea of investing in another collection from 2000 ad, whether it stars Joe Dredd or not, could so easily be deterred. After all, a neophyte might be forgiven for concluding that in places these "Tour Of Duty" stories aren't very well written or effectively illustrated, while even the pace of some of the more successful of these tales feels distinctly odd, somehow ....

           
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To discuss the other stories in "Tour Of Duty: The Backlash" would be to debate the degree to which this editing process can be judged to work or not, and, my preference for the original form notwithstanding, it can't be denied that there are stories where the collected version feels quite seamless, such as in Mr Wagner and Mr MacNeil's "The Secret Of Mutant Camp". Yet even where the progression from (obscured) chapter to (obscured) chapter is considerably less jarring, the sense of an oddly structured story tends to remain, as with the otherwise smooth-reading  "The Edgar Case" by Mr Wagner and Mr Goddard. (*1) In the edited version of the opening page of the second chapter of John Wagner and Nick Dyer's " ... Regrets", for example, as reproduced above, the logo, title and an expositionary caption have been removed in order to destroy any impression that anything other than one continuous story is underway. And yet Mr Wagner is left looking like an amateur or careless scriptwriter by the process, since much of the catch-up information that he's so carefully and effectively seeded into the page for the benefit of the weekly reader still remains unremoved in the edited version. The dialogue in the very first panel of this page, for example, is often word-for-word the same as that presented on the facing page of the collected edition, as you can see by comparing the panels I've placed above sections 9 and 10 below. (Even the newsreader at the end of what was originally page 1 of chapter 2 - above -  is repeating in part information given to the reader just one-and-a-half pages before in the trade paperback.)

*1: - It's hard not to believe that Mr Wagner is writing both for the weekly and collected format at the same time, which is as admirable as it's surely almost impossible. Surely both formats tend to inevitably suffer somewhat in such an endeavour even with Mr Wagner at the helm?


panel 5, page 6 of TPB: "We demand freedom for all Total War operatives.They will be flown to the Mongolian Free State and released unharmed. You have forty eight hours."

panel 1, page 6 of TPB: "We demand freedom for all Total War Operatives. You have forty eight hours. Fail to comply and the boy will die."

It takes a considerable editorial misjudgement to make John Wagner look even the slightest bit less than marvellously competent, but that's what's happened here. Information that once needed to be restated is now no longer required, and yet it's still there, on the printed page. And even where Mr Wagner's work flows in a less juddering and repetitive fashion between one once-was chapter and another in both "The Backlash" and "Origins", there's still often a sense of a story that's not being told as it would be if the creators had had the freedom to structure the tale they're telling in something other than short sections. Simply obscuring the original chapters doesn't change much of the experience of reading them one after the other, after all. At the very least, the original chapter breaks gave the reader the chance to pace themselves as they worked through each long tale. What's more, it's so much easier to enjoy and admire the discipline and achievement of a team of creators, and to understand the presence of what might otherwise be read as excesses and redundancies, when the form that that writer and artist are working to is evident on the page.

          
That "Origins" is still such a fascinating and exciting read in its edited and chapterless form is testament to the brilliance of Mr Wagner and Mr Equerra. But in its "final" and published form, "Origins" provides nowhere near the quality of the more controlled and enjoyable experience to be gained from reading the epic in its original chapter-based existence.

I'd love to see the market research that Rebellion Publishing has financed in order to inspire their decisions as regards the composition of these collections. In particular, I'd love to know how they're tracking their respondents after they were first questioned. Whether they surveyed established and/or potential readers, or even relied on anecdotal evidence from sources such as comic shop owners,  I'd be fascinated by whether those surveyed actually ever did read such an edited volume, and, if so, whether that inspired them to buy more collections, and of what kind?

What evidence was the decision to publish these collections in this way based upon, and is there proof that this experiment has worked?

        
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The only way that folks can buy a collected edition of these "Tour Of Duty" and "Origin" stories is in this bowdlerised form. I'd suggest that there really does need to be a pressing reason for that to be so, because I suspect that it'll be a decade and more before these tales appear in one of the Complete Case Studies collections, resplendent in their original form. (I simply can't imagine that 2000 ad is going to issue an "uncut" collection of these tales in the coming months, although I for one would certainly buy such a publication.)

And that's more than a shame. Given the excellence and importance of some of these stories, it's actually something of a comic-book scale tragedy.

          
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The more time I spend looking at the consequences of the editorial changes that've been made to these strips, the more disappointed I am at myself for not checking that 2000 ad was reprinting its stories intact before buying several of the imprint's recent collections.

And the more disappointed I am too in the attitude to the work expressed by the folks who made the decision to edit this material. At the very least, they might have warned the reader that what was being collected and published was very much not what was originally published. 

I hope the programme has resulted in a significant and lasting increase in sales, although I won't be touching any future collections which don't faithfully and respectfully reproduce the work as originally published unless there's a really good reason for doing so. For if I'd've wanted a version of the work that'd been created from a process of hacking away at the published pages of gifted creators, well, I could have done a poor job of that for myself with Photoshop and half-an-hour in front of the family computer, and saved myself the money which, in all honesty, I really don't have to spend on comic book collections anyway.

But I really do enjoy and admire the work of many of these creators, and I've always been beguiled by the character and world of Dredd too. And that means, in the strange and often futile way of the comic book fan, that I trusted Rebellion Publishing and 2000 ad to feel the same way, and to do the right thing as a consequence of that.

                
Next up; the second part of a look at the madness of Scorpio, from Marvel's "The Defenders" of 1977.

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23 comments:

  1. Why Rebellion need it to be one long continuous story is beyond me. There's these things called chapters that have a long and successful history in fiction and non fiction writing alike. Even gaming, Rebellion's background I believe, makes use of chapters. What have the collection editors got against them?

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  2. Hello Peter:- well, in the case of these two books, my working assumption is that the presumption was made that uncommitted readers would prefer a less structured and a less apparently fractured reading experience. The only other conclusion would be that I'm quite wrong about some if not all of these collected tales being written with chapters suited to serialisation, in which case it would be the chapters themselves which were the "artificial" component and, if that were so, quite rightly removed for the TPBs. And yet, there does seem to be a great deal of evidence that these stories are at the least written to hit enigma points every six or so pages if nothing else, meaning that there surely is evidence of an underlying chapter structure in place.

    And of course the great majority of 2000 ad collections do reproduce the work exactly - or just about exactly - as first printed.

    As I say above, and even accepting that my argument might be entirely wrong, perhaps there's a mass of evidence that a larger audience awaits for these apparently longer-form stories.

    But for me, I don't even want the tape hiss taken off my digital versions of Beatles and Motown tracks if it impinges upon an accurate reproduction of the dynamics of the original records. And certainly where "Mutopia" is concerned, that's a story which is ill-treated by this editing process. Even if I've made the wrong assumptions elsewhere, and that's surely possible, "Mutopia" stands in TOFTB as something of a shadow of its previous self.

    And even if the work was actually written to be read as a whole and the chapter form was imposed upon it, the publisher should still have warned the reader that what's in the collection is NOT what's been seen in the weeklies.

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  3. Just thought I'd flag that there is a thread running on this over on the 2000AD forums, with the usual range of diverse opinion. Interesting input from John Wagner too (no pressure!!).

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  4. Hello Emperor:- no, no pressure AT all.

    None at all ....

    That's a really good thread that's running there, isn't it, with a range of thoroughly well-informed points of view on the subject. In fact, it's a model of how boards can function if I may say so, as it so often is, and I write that fully acknowledging - in case it seems I'm arguing otherwise - that my POV on this isn't everyone's cup of tea there.

    Thanks for the nudge, Emperor. And if the above pieces on 2000 ad were in any way of passing interest & you don't visit the 2000 ad boards, then I'd recommend following the link in Emperor's post. I've said several times that those are the folks who really do know about the comic and its deep history and it's a forum that often makes fascinating reading.

    I always fear I sound insincere when I express myself honestly in such a way, but there you go and them's the risks; those boards are a place worth the visit.

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  5. It's disappointing to see such crude formatting work done when a more subtle interim approach could yield better results without breaking the compositions. It should be simple enough to take out the Judge Dredd logo and fill the space with an expanded story title and chapter caption. That way the story's rhythm is preserved, but the repetition of a huge Dredd logo every few pages is removed.

    I'd be interested to see what solution was used on the Defoe trade, as I know the artist had redrawn several panels for that. I expect a more sensitive finished product in that case.

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  6. Hello Mark:- I agree with you entirely. A solution, if we take the specific case of Mutopia, may indeed have been to adapt the chapter title while excising the evidence of the Dredd logo. That first panel in the second chapter would have needed new dialogue to a degree, but that's a relatively small amount of work if - IF - the publishers feel that the story has to be recast at all. And as you say, as a general principle, it's surely better than simply taking scissors to the page, as it were.

    I believe, and others would know far more about this than I, that several of the collections that Mr Mills has written have been reworked to a degree for the TPBs by the artists involved. Your interest in Defoe's adaption, for example, is one I realise I share, and once I get a moment, I think it would be worth comparing the collected and original versions of that strip. Thank you for nudging me in that direction.

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  7. Those examples are painful to see. Oww. If Rebellion thinks it's necessary for the wider market to present the strips as if they're original graphic novel stories with no breaks, it'd work better if some pages had a slight redrawing so it doesn't stand out - they've redrawn some pages before. (But there could be budget reasons why it's only for Mills)

    It's been a bit of a barrier with the Dante's too - the DC Nikolai Dante trades kept title and credits, the Rebellion ones often don't. Later stories like Hell And High Water seem to be written with an eye half-on the trade: there's a seague between Young and Modern Dante that had a gap between them in the serial and Amerika has the "you're going to Amerika which Russia has conquered" exposition in Part 2, giving the trade an action opener. The third trade, OTOH, doesn't have that, and the shift seems to happen partway through Tsar Wars.

    God, I hope Mega City One kept the Low Life trades, there's a great sequence in a Dirty Frank story with the exposition being used to set up a conflict, take the piss out of the third character to be exposited, and have a joke of Dirty Frank replying to his own caption which wouldn't work if you don't know this is a chapter opening.

    "It's hard not to believe that Mr Wagner is writing both for the weekly and collected format at the same time, which is as admirable as it's surely almost impossible"

    For Judge Dredd VS Aliens, Wagner and Andy Diggle had to write it for weekly, monthly American, and trade formats! And they almost pulled it off too, with the jarring only being due to the collection not including 'issue breaks' (page 22 and 23 is basically the same moment) and several bits where Henry Flint has drawn six-page-cliffhanger and one-page-scenesetter pictures for the serial that don't fit monthly/collected (and if he didn't, it wouldn't fit the serial!). That said, the writing... the first four parts work as a slow-building, moody serial AND as a first issue building up to a cliffhanger, and give us escalation in both formats, variety for the serial, and specific settings/events for issues.

    (And now I learn from Emperor's link that Wagner doesn't think about the collected form much. He does it without thinking?!?!?! jeeeez.)

    - Charles RB

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  8. Leigh Gallagher asked if he could redraw around 20 panels because he had honed his style over the years and wanted to the chance to give a few panels a polish. There is no mention of him changing anything to make the trade flow better, although I await Colin's forensic analysis of the differences between the two works with interest.

    If I had to guess I'd suggest that Pat possibly has more of an eye on how the collected edition will work while producing the story for the weekly format. It'd be easy enough to get a message to him about this.

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  9. Hello Charles:- It is a worry about what is and what isn't an edited edition, isn't it? I've been thinking of working my way from the beginning of Dante, for example, as good folks such as yourself speak so well of those early tales. But I've little interest in having a product on my shelves where different volumes present the material in different ways. (I've just this very morning "Amerika" from the local library. I'd like to think that I'll open those covers and see the work as originally printed.)

    We shouldn't have to be concerned about the likes of Mega City One, should we? In a world in which sales are now often maintained by showing respect to the product being marketed, Rebellion might consider making sure that it's a brand that can be absolutely trusted. There have been disappointing moves - leaving out The Dead Man out of the Case Studies: why? - and now these edits. Much of what's published is of course absolutely fine. But brands live and die on trust, and if customers have to worry about what's been done to this product or that, well, they might just not bother.

    I agree with you about Mr Wagner, of course. The best thing about writing the above has been the chat about the issues here and especially elsewhere, and to have learned more about Mr W's work has been the icing on the cake.

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  10. Hello Emperor:- that's a brilliant link! Thank you. I may be wrong, but I do believe that Clint Langley added extra art to make at least 1 ABC Warriors collection "read" better.

    I've been both admiring - Defoe - and otherwise about Mr Mills work over the last year, but I'll always read what he has to say about his craft. On that note, the latest issue of Comic Hero has a well-worth-the-reading article by him on girl's comics, and there's an interesting interview with Kev O'Neil too that touches on 2000 ad. Oh, and a fascinating piece by Rob Williams on colourists.

    It's an expensive read, and there's a great deal therein that's of little interest to me. But there's alot that's of interest there too.

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  11. "leaving out The Dead Man out of the Case Studies: why?"

    I guess that was done to preserve the experience - or, at least, emulate it - of going "oh my GOD, DREDD is the Dead Man!!". Problem is, if you don't see a trade of The Dead Man before Case Files 14, you don't know to get that first and after 14, you don't get the same build-up for the Sisters of Death.

    The other problem is Anderson got her own trade - which is sensible commercially, because she's a spin-off and it allows Psi-Files 1 to be in order. But that means the Dark Judges appear in Case Files 5 and then not until Case Files 14 where they're in a completely different situation, with a diversion in 8 or 9 to the aftermath of their third attack which you can't see! Some readers will get confused there. (The Anderson strips by Grant also had a few tie-ins and prologues in his Dredds, but that's something you can't really get round)

    - Charles RB

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  12. Hello Charles;- I'm afraid I'm terribly cynical about the reasons why The Dead Man was left out. Am I wrong in thinking that America was left out too? It's impossible for me to think of a reason that isn't connected to the fact that certain TPBs of JD sell well. I'd love to think that it was an artistic reason for leaving The Dead Man out of the sequence, but it's 20 years old as a story anyway, and, as you so rightly say, there's nothing to tell the reader that a vital series of chapters have been left out of a book that appears under the heading "complete".

    The Anderson situation is a challenge too. But it, and the question of at least letting readers know about the Dead Man, could be solved with a single editorial page. That's all it would take, and I'm abit lost about why such hasn't been added.

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  13. "It's impossible for me to think of a reason that isn't connected to the fact that certain TPBs of JD sell well."

    Technically, America is a Dreddworld story, the first two instalments appearing as "America" and so wouldn't be collected in the Case Files. Most of the major Dredd epics are collected in their own volumes and have sold well but still get collected in the Case Files as they sweep them up (most recently Necropolis). The main concern is the opposite to the one you raise, people wonder if they are being sold the same thing twice and whether it is worth their money buying it again. Collecting non-"Judge Dredd" stories (as opposed to stories that have Judge Dredd in them), like America, might raise some eyebrows.

    Basically, the collection criteria has been pretty strict and is down to the title, so "Judge Dredd" goes in the Case Files, "Devlin Waugh" in his books even if some of the stories feature Dredd, etc. This means the Dead Man is out, which is certainly something we could quibble about, but it'd be jarring to run straight into it in the Case Files, so it could be a tricky one. The only time this has really gone awry is where "Download Tales" weren't included in the Sinister dexter trades, despite the story continuing in that series and then back into "Sinister Dexter", so a chunk of story is mysteriously missing. That is a genuine dropping of the ball - basically the series was renamed for a time when the duo split up and we saw their parallel stories, until they joined back up again. So they should have been in the trade.

    The problem is that series can have spin-offs and tie-ins. In the anthology you could run a story in a parallel series and know someone had read that and the main one. Clearly when they are collected this rather breaks down. The only other alternative would be to print the same chunks of story in different collections and that'd start to put people's noses out of joint. Perhaps some kind of explanation in the trade would help though. Perhaps it is assumed that if you buy the Case Files you buy the PSI Files but... assume nothing.

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  14. Hello Emperor:- and you raise, as you so often do, some absolutely brilliant points, and some so important to me that I almost think I ought to write a piece on the main blog about them. However, given that I’ve written a lot about 2000 ad on this blog recently and given that there’s still the “Bluffer’s Guide To How To 2000 ad” to come, I guess I’d best keep my response to here.

    Your argument seems to be that the issue of which stories appear in the Judge Dredd Complete Case Files is transparent, or at the very least, logical. My counter-argument is that the issue is anything other than transparent. Let’s consider the blurb on the back of the first Complete Case Files;

    “Now you can discover the roots of this legendary character in this vast and Thrill-packed series of graphic novels COLECTING TOGETHER ALL OF DREDD’S ADVENTURE’S IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, COMPLETE AND UNCUT!”

    The capitals are my addition, but the meaning is clear. We’re going to get ALL of Dredd’s appearances. Now, as a bloke with all 17 volumes on his shelf, and therefore a consumer who made a commitment to the series, I can tell you that I made it on the basis of this promise, and promise it was, in black and white. And though that promise very quickly disappeared from the back from the Case Studies, that word COMPLETE didn’t.

    If we take this out of the context of comic book fans and place in the context of a real-world marketplace, and away from the emotional attachment we can bear to comic-book material and comicbook companies, I’d suggest to you that this is just a very poor show indeed. Anyone who committed to a line that clearly promised one thing and then delivered another would feel justified in believing that a promise had been made and not delivered upon, especially if they were ignorant of the history of the character and didn't realise stories were missing until they'd spent a large amount on these collections.

    I do. I don’t expect to have to deduce from later collections relating to decades-old comics history that certain issues are missing. At the very least, I’d expect the publisher to explain these matters on their product.

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  15. Emperor/cont;

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    That word COMPLETE stands there, but the collections are “clearly” not complete, or rather, it’s clear if you’re already an expert on Judge Dredd. But I bought these collections because I’m NOT an expert. Yet then I find that if I want the stories from the annuals and specials, I have to go to other collections, and there they exist out of the historical context.

    Or rather, I don’t find out any such thing. Because those COMPLETE collections don’t contain any material admitting that COMPLETE means, er, seriously INCOMPLETE.

    Now, outside of the circle of those who understand the torturous explanation for why this should be so, which I’ll return to in a moment, stands a general public who Rebellion desperately want to attract, as well they should. And issues such as “Complete” case studies which are ANYTHING but, added to the editing problems in other TPBs and indeed the quality and social justice issues in recent months of progs, simply combine to sully the relationship between consumer and company. I’m being quite serious here, Emperor. The relationship between producer and consumer where their products are concerned needs to be absolutely transparent, and Rebellion simply isn’t providing this. And I for one, who doesn’t have the emotional attachment to the brand that some others do, don’t want to have to research whether “COMPLETE” means something else, or what criteria are being used, or whether editing is being used. I certainly except a touch more compassion and direction on the publisher’s part to guide me through their mislabelled or unlabelled product.

    Now, I fully understand that major guest appearances are another matter. Of course they are. (It would be helpful for each Case Study to contain a map of these, a single side saying where else Dredd appeared in this period.) Similarly, stories which overlap with Dredd’s world significantly could be referred to too. Of course this would require, what, a day’s work, and would be more difficult as we reach the period of the Megazine. But it’s hardly exhausting and it would be KIND.

    to be concluded;

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  16. Emperor/concluded;

    3.

    But when we come to the absence of America and The Dead Man, I’m at a loss to understand how Rebellion can justify their absence, which is why my cynical reading of the situation existed. I think I can understand one possible reason for why they were left out, so thank you for correcting my cynicism, but that doesn’t mean that I agree with either the decision or, most importantly, the lack of transparency of it. Because the company isn’t playing fair in a series of ways and – this is my point I’m rambling towards – that screws up the relationship between consumer and producer. If I’m buying Judge Dredd Complete Collections which aren’t in any way complete, and if I’m buying recent TPBs where the stories have been – poorly – edited to create the impression of being long-form pieces, well, that’s not a minor issue in terms of the marketplace. It’s actually a fundamental issue. I’m spending a significant amount of money relative to my income and I keep finding that what I’ve got isn’t what it appeared to say on the tin.

    And if Rebellion wants to issue this material under the heading of “Complete”, then the least it can do is warn us.

    This is ESPECIALLY true where these stories are concerned. If I asked you for the most important Judge Dredd stories, I have little doubt that America and The Dead Man would be on the list. If I asked you for the best Judge Dredd stories, I assume they would be too. And I would argue those stories can’t possibly be absent from any COMPLETE collection, and that if they are, we should be told rather than there being no mention of what’s missing, where it fits and where it might be found. If I were, for example, a new American buyer and read all of 14 and then later discovered that The Dead Man was missing, why, I think there’s every chance I’d bin the whole lot and focus again on other products. These decisions are not only ill-judged, but they are commercially insensitive and potentially counter-productive.

    And certainly if Rebellion were thinking more about the integrity of their brand, then I believe that those stories would have been included.

    At the very least, material explaining their absence and informing the reader where they fit in the scheme of things would have been added.

    These issues which we’re talking about recently are all connected. Quality, social justice, transparency, kindness. And because transparency so often isn’t an issue in major areas of the comic book market, relationships between consumers and producers get soured. Which is why the reasons to leave those above-mentioned strips out of the collection made me cynical. Because to anyone not in on the loop, the absence of The Dead Man and America is very hard to understand.

    Add to all of the above the problems with the last quarter of 2000ad and the total sum of all those editorial decisions leaves me feeling a touch distrustful, Emperor. And if a bloke who’s writing a guide about how to engage with 2000 ad for some American friends is feeling so, then who else might be?

    Or: it’s not a comic book matter so much as an issue of business and transparency. And I strongly believe that one of the reasons that comic books in general are shedding even dedicated readers across the board is because the accumulated mass of unexplained and apparently unthought-through decision reaches critical mass, and the reader thinks “I’m off”.

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  17. The Case Files are the complete collections of the "Judge Dredd" series (as much as can be done within the law - hence the omission of some episodes of The Cursed Earth). The character Judge Dredd has had cameos and more major appearances in other Dreddworld series, these are collected in their own volumes, in the same way that Judge Anderson's appearance in "Judge Dredd" are not collected in the PSI Files. American and The Dead Man are two other Dreddworld series, I'd agree with not collecting America in the Case Files, but I think The Dead Man is a tricky one. On one hand it'd be weird to jump into what is presented as a separate series, but then again it does need to be read in the place it occurs, because it grows out of one Dredd story and informs a lot of those that happen after, so not reading it would also be a jarring experience. I don't think there is an easy solution to this, and because the Case Files are collections of "Judge Dredd" the series, it makes sense to leave it out or you are opening a whole can of worms. However, it does need flagging that there is a point where you'd need to read the Dead man collection - it is helpful to the reader and, if we want to appeal to the bottom line, it'd shift a few more copies of the Dead Man trade which might not have jumped out at someone skimming Amazon. Not having the books in question I don't know if this happens.

    All I can say is that sticking solidly to collecting the series in their own book makes logical sense and it means if you are looking for something you'll know which book it contains. You would not, for example, have a series of trade collections of the Superman comic book and then start adding in all the other appearances of Superman (the character) into the series of trades, unless it was a major crossover storyline with say Action Comics (which would have its own range of trades). I don't even think people would expect it and it'd be a mess to read. The situation is the same here, you won't get a collection of trade paperbacks with all the appearances of Judge Dredd in order, in the same way you won't get one of Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, etc.

    Now I agree that it should probably be more specific about what is in the Case Files and I do like the idea of some kind of timeline (as things usually happen in a linear manner, barring the occasional flashback), the latter might be something for the 2000AD wiki when it gets back up and running. Including a chart in the back of the Case Files showing Dredd's other appearances during this period would, again, not just be helpful, but also help sell more books. Granted there would be some slight added expense, and the Case Files are a "no frills" equivalent to Marvel's Essentials, but it might be off set by generating more sales of other Dreddworld titles, as well as increased customer satisfaction (extras in trade collections can never hurt, unless they are nude photographs of the creators, but, even then, there might be a market for that ;) ). Then again, I'm not the graphic novels editor, for which we should all be grateful as I don't think I could have done a better job of it ;)

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  18. I honestly don't know why the Case Files didn't advertise Anderson (it's "Psi-Files One" now but it would've been the DC/Rebellion Anderson at the time) or The Dead Man in the appropriate Files. Or America.

    The other oddity is the Restricted Files, collecting strips from specials and annuals - why weren't they included in the Case Files? Reasons of length? They hadn't found all of them? I could see if it was the colour being a problem, since printing just one or two strips per File in colour would've added to the cost.

    Anyone know if Case Files 17 includes the Strontium Dog crossover that Judgement Day references? It's printed in the Agency Files series, sure, but it's pretty crucial to the story.

    - Charles RB

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  19. Hello Emperor:- I’m horribly afraid that we’ve reached that point where what one person and another are saying aren’t meeting in the middle :) By which I mean, I’m not sure how what you’ve written in your first paragraph relates to my points about (a) what was written on the first collection’s cover, (b) the meaning of that word “complete”, and (c) the practise of giving the consumer what they might fairly expect to receive in a particular situation. I did specifically say that I accepted that my argument about what constitutes a “Judge Dredd” strip might not be anyone else’s. But it’s not the calculation of what is and what isn’t a “separate series” that I’m centrally concerned with, though it is an example of my concern. As a consumer, I couldn’t care less about continuity choices & canon. As a consumer, I expect the producer to sort that out and sort it out as appropriately as possible. I can’t see the Dead Man being a tricky case, or America either, and for the reasons I mentioned. I think that’s only a tricky problem if one is approaching the whole issue as a comic book fan. For I can’t imagine their absence in a collection marketed as “complete” is an issue beyond the ranks of fans. The public don’t and shouldn’t have to care about whether "complete" means that or not, and they sadly only need to do so when absolutely essential material is both absent and absent without explanation.

    Hence the use of words like “transparency” and “consumer” and “brand” in my comment; I obviously failed to make myself clear, and I am genuinely sorry that I didn’t. But, as a consumer, if I buy the “complete” anything, I expect the producer to err on the side of generosity. If something which impacts upon the meaning of what I’m reading is missing, and in a product marked “complete”, then I expect it to be clearly signed up and explained. The continuity/definition issues aren’t important. What matters is the producer anticipating the consumers needs and attending to them.

    ” You would not, for example, have a series of trade collections of the Superman comic book and then start adding in all the other appearances of Superman (the character) into the series of trades”

    It depends what the trade collection is and how it’s marketted. The DC Chronicles series does exactly that. Other collections in the DC/Marvel imprints don’t have “complete” on the front! And there are a host of examples of major crossovers in both the Essentials and Showcase formats, and indeed the Masterworks series too, where other material is indeed brought in, including relatively minor LSH crossovers in the Superman universe. In fact, the Defenders/Avengers War appears time after time in different collections because no-one would think of printing one part of the tale without the other, even though the crossover can be read separately.

    Cont! :).

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  20. Emperor:- cont

    But the issue isn’t really what is and what isn’t in the 2000 ad collections, or anyone else’s. The issue is that this is a symptom of how consumers are, without any kind of malice and with every good intention, often treated by Rebellion. The 2000 ad product is produced, it seems to me, by comic book fans who approach things as comic book fans do. (If it isn't, I find it impossible to grasp why decisions made have been reached.) As I said, this results in weekly strips which make no sense if you’re not an established reader, in the edits we’ve been discussing in TPBs and in the strange billing and lack of explanations which mar the Complete Case Studies. The assumption is that the folks buying this stuff will understand what they’re being given, in whatever form, because the editors understand what they're doing. And I think it’s a false assumption, and it leads to confusion and alienating material too. It’s a process I saw time after time in teaching. Teachers would assume that their students knew X or Y and charged ahead, often missing out the most important issues, such as the fact that even the brightest of students often didn’t know how to consciously frame the simplest of sentences.

    “ Including a chart in the back of the Case Files showing Dredd's other appearances during this period would, again, not just be helpful, but also help sell more books.”

    On, absolutely!!! Or even just a page saying "this is what we mean by complete and this is the missing stuff that you need to go read". And ultimately this is my point. I want Rebellion to sell shiploads of material. I REALLY DO!!! I honestly believe that the way they commission and market material often hurts them, and considering how much good is done by the editorial staff – and I do believe this – the lack of transparency about who this material is for and exactly what it is that those folks need is at the heart of nearly everything you and I have been discussing this past year.

    “Then again, I'm not the graphic novels editor, for which we should all be grateful as I don't think I could have done a better job of it ;)”

    Ah, but we don’t judge folks by whether we could do better. We judge them by whether they’ve done the job we believe they’ve been contracted to do. I believe that a huge amount of what Rebellion/2000 ad do is both highly competent and mostly well beyond my capacity to equal.

    But that’s not what I’m saying. Even if we disregard our disagreement about the contents of the Complete series, and I hope we will :), the essential problem remains. I’m frustrated because I keep seeing product from 2000 ad that requires the knowledge of a longstanding reader to enjoy, even down to my being expected to note and understand absences from or edits in collections, and I keep buying publications which aren’t what I believed I was laying down my pennies for.

    I’m glad I didn’t try to write this up in a main piece on the blog. From reading your comment and trying to construct my reply, I can see that I’ve got a way to go before I can be clear enough here. THANK YOU for being willing to engage with my attempts.

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  21. Hello Charles:- "I honestly don't know why the Case Files didn't advertise Anderson (it's "Psi-Files One" now but it would've been the DC/Rebellion Anderson at the time) or The Dead Man in the appropriate Files. Or America."

    Absolutely! I might have been irritated about this, but I could have taken the openess alot more than the absence of information. And I've have probably trotted off and bought the new editions too :)

    "The other oddity is the Restricted Files, collecting strips from specials and annuals - why weren't they included in the Case Files? Reasons of length? They hadn't found all of them? I could see if it was the colour being a problem, since printing just one or two strips per File in colour would've added to the cost."

    This one escapes me. If the colour is a problem, then porint it in B & W, for all it'll look awful. Or say "In this month, the annual was issued with 2 stories which you can find in ...."

    "Anyone know if Case Files 17 includes the Strontium Dog crossover that Judgement Day references? It's printed in the Agency Files series, sure, but it's pretty crucial to the story."

    By chance, I've got the volume open by me! I don't know the original material, so all I can tell you is what's there. As far as I can see, all the chapters of Judgement Day are there, 1 to 20, although chapter 3 isn't marked as a individual chapter and there aren't JD logos on several of the chapters. Does this mean that some of the chapters ran under the Strontium Dog logo? (And if so, why would that not be something which Rebellion would show in this volume?)

    But - AS FAR AS I CAN TELL - there's nothing from Strontium Dog that isn't the 20 chapters of Judgement Day. I leave you, Mr C, to let me know whether anything else is missing :)

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  22. There was a 1990 Special story "Top Dog", where Johnny and Wulf go back in time to MC-1 and fight Dredd - Judgement Day references it.

    - Charles RB

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  23. Hello Charles:- now, I've read "Top Dog" recently, which makes me think that it's in either the JD or the SD complete case collections I'll try to track it down.

    I guess we're in the field of what really HAS to printed in any one collection. Again, in such a situation, a reference somewhere to the reader about where to go to BUY MORE PRODUCT could only be a kindness, and great commercial sense too :)

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